«CRYSTAL OF RESISTANCE»
AN ARTWORK BY THOMAS HIRSCHHORN FOR THE SWISS PAVILION / VENICE BIENNALE 2011
MELBOURNE INTERVIEW
Dear Elisabeth,
I really think your question is pertinent, how art sheds light on philosophy and conversely how philosophy sheds light on an art practice. Do the two disciplines speak in parallel and never touch, or are there points of intersection where each can illuminate, provide models for, and critique the other? Yes, my answer is yes! through “Friendship” and by "Inventing my own terms".
"Friendship between Art and Philosophy"
My first response is: Friendship! Friendship between Art and Philosophy! Together, with my friend Marcus Steinweg, philosopher, we made a map: the "Map of Friendship between Art and Philosophy". With this map we wanted to make a visual statement of this friendship and work out – give form and assert why Art and Philosophy are linked together: Art and Philosophy are linked by a shared admiration and passion, not by influence, discussion, illustration, explication or justification, not by these static and hostile terms from which one cannot build a friendship. Friendship is or can be built by shared admiration for somebody and passion for something. Friendship between Art and Philosophy does not mean that the artist needs the philosopher to do his work, nor that the philosopher needs the artist to do his work, but it means that Philosophy and Art really share the same movement, the same dynamic, the same interrogations, the same problematic, the same headlessness, in order to accomplish the constitutive creative artistic act. This artistic act is assertion of a new truth. In Philosophy this truth is a new concept, and in Art this truth is a new form.
"Inventing my own terms"
Terms and notions are important, both in Philosophy and in Art. I completely agree
with you when you point out – Philosophy provides a popular source of quotation and
reference for artists, curators, historians and theorists writing about art. But
my response is: I want to invent my own terms in Art! Philosophers use words with
preciseness and exactitude. Following their logic, philosophers are sculpting concepts
in the strongest way they can. The words they use are powerful and important tools
in order to create new terms in Philosophy. Philosophers are inventing their own
terms. I -
Therefore the 10 terms of our map are equally important to both of us; there aren’t
5 terms for Philosophy and 5 for Art. All terms are essential terms for Marcus as
a philosopher as well as for me as an artist. To share this makes me happy, this
is friendship and we materialized it – together – in our “Map of Friendship between
Art and Philosophy”. I will follow these 10 terms to answer your question as the
artist, and remain faithful to our 10 Friendship-
1. Love:
I love Philosophy and I love Spinoza, I love Gramsci, I love Foucault, I love Bataille, I love Deleuze, I love Nietzsche, I love Badiou, I love Sartre, I love Arendt. I need Philosophy for my life, to try to find answers to big questions such as “Love”, to name one of the most important ones. And for this, I need Philosophy – please believe it! I am passionate about Spinoza because reading “Ethics” had a real impact on me. I am passionate about Philosophy in general because I enjoy not understanding everything. I like the fact that in Philosophy, things remain to be understood and work still needs to be done. I – as artist – admire how great Philosophers are interested and committed toward other thinkers and how these Philosophers are the most able to explain with their own words the concepts of other Philosophers. Gilles Deleuze is truly an important Philosopher to me, he’s really the one who convinced me to start reading Spinoza. You have to know, Elisabeth, I am not a reader and I don’t pretend to be one. “Ethics” is overwhelming in form, logic and clarity. “Ethics” is a powerful attempt to fight obscurantism and idealism, and today, more than ever, we need to confront this. Reading Spinoza means: accepting to insist on receptivity and sensuality without the idea of a certain type of infinity. Spinoza presents a concept devoid of transcendence and devoid of immanence. It is the concept – as Deleuze shows – of Here and Now, the concept of Life – Life as a subject without God. An active subject, a subject of pleasure and leisure. A responsible, gay, happy, assertive subject. To do Artwork is only possible with Love. I love Mondrian, I love Nolde, I love Schwitters, I love Beuys, I love Warhol, I love Duchamp, I love Malevitch, I love Oppenheim.
2. Assertion:
In Art the assertion of form is essential. Only when I assert a form – even if it
is against everyone and everything – am I constituting a work of art. A work of art
is always an assertion and as an assertion, it is a gift. A challenging and unexpected
gift. A gift which – by its generosity – blows off any thoughts of calculation and
economization. I want to give everything, I want to understand the form of my work
as a gift. But the gift is not the work itself – the gift is the actual doing it
and doing it that way! What I love about the notion of “gift” is its offensive, demanding
and even aggressive part, the part that provokes the Other to give more! It’s the
part which implies a response, a real and active response to the gift. The gift -
3. Headlessnes:
The term headless is – as well –completely shared by Art and Philosophy. Headless
does not mean stupid, silly or without intelligence, headless does not mean to be
ignorant, I am not an ignorant artist – because better not be ignorant, as artist!
Of course – I love the beautiful book “The Ignorant Schoolmaster” of Jacques Rancière
and its fantastic enlightening title, but I am not a schoolmaster – I don’t even
teach Art – I am an artist! I am and want to be a headless artist. I want to act
– always – in headlessness, it's something important to me. I want to make Art in
headlessness. “Headlessness” stands for: doing my work in a rush and with precipitation.
Other words for headlessness are: restlessness, insisting and insisting again heavily,
acceleration, generosity, expenditure, energy (energy = yes! quality = no!), self-
4. Form:
The essential question in Art is the question of form. How can I give a form which
creates a truth? How can I give a form -
It is crucial not to forget that an artwork can be something which does not function. (I do not say that Art has no function but Art does not have to function!) Today the question of functioning (“does it function? does it work? is it – then – a success or not?”) arises automatically and quickly as the criteria for “good” or “bad” art. This is stupid and easy.
Art is something which reaches us beyond such criteria. To believe in this power of Art is to me what “working politically” as an artist means, trying to resist in and with the work to the pressure of functionality. I am often surprised by effortless, inexact and empty terms or notions used in order to “explain” an artwork. . I have to invent my own terms and I want to insist with my own notions. I know – as artist – that to give form is the absolute necessity.
5. Autonomy:
Art is autonomous, Art is autonomous because – and just because – it's Art. Another
word for autonomy is beauty or the absolute. To make it clear, I am not interested
in 'autonomy' as self-
6. Universality:
Universality is constitutive to Art. It’s something very important to me. One can
say that Art is universal because it’s Art. If it is not universal it is not Art,
it’s something else. I do oppose the term “universality” to culture, tradition, identity,
community, religion, obscurantism, globalization, internationalism, nationalism and
regionalism. With my artwork – and not only with my works in public space – I experienced
that universality is truly essential. There are other words for universality: The
Real, The One World, the Other, Justice, Politics, Aesthetics, Truth, the “Non-
7. War:
As an artist I need to be a warrior. To be a warrior means to fight for something,
not against something or somebody. I want to fight for my form. I want to develop
it, I want to propose it and I want to defend it. It's war -
8. Courage:
In Art and Philosophy I need the courage to stand alone, the courage to be isolated,
to be lonely. I am aware that the words ‘lonely’, ‘isolated’ and ‘alone’ can be interpreted
as ‘romantic’ or against ‘the collective’ but it’s not the point because I am not
against the collective. I am interested in the hardcore of a decided and assumed
loneliness and an assumed personal position. There is one term very important to
me -
9. Hope:
I hope, I dream, I want to act and I want things to change. That is why I read Philosophy.
I am not interested in reading writers, philosophers, thinkers, as an artist. I am
interested in them as human beings. I don’t use their work for my work. I read it
to try to stay alert, to keep my thoughts active. To read their writings keeps my
brain working, that’s why I do it. With his essay "La notion de dépense" Bataille
opens a field of strength. Loss is not destruction but loss is a form to impose an
economical balance based on human activity and not on capitalism. Bataille said there
must be structure, there must be excess. Hope as a principle for taking action, for
moving and going straight ahead. Hope does not mean “hopeful for something or “hopefully
something will happen”. Hope means hope as real Hope. To breathe – every second -
10. Resistance:
Art is resistance, Art is resistance as such. Art -
I hope my answers can give enlightenment -
take care -
Thomas, Aubervilliers, 1. December 2010